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Mother Watches Son Getting Tossed

Hi Kim,

I do not think your drawing is suicidal as you say. You are lying down on the roof, not standing at the edge. On the other hand, you are prone, which might suggest a kind of passivity or giving in.

I'm going to do another version of this picture.

(Kim: Above.)

What do you think?

(Kim: Isn't that a funny statement. It should be "how do you think?")

Good point.

I am confused about what website we are using internally. it seems
as if I have several urls. is there one that i should be using all the
time?

(Kim: They have now done a major upgrade on my server and it is fine again. See: http://kimmosley.com/kimmosley/art/lipkinconversation/conversation/

Everything now is up to date.)

Also, I showed some of what we have done to a few people and they think the way the stuff is laid out is confusing. It is hard to follow the thread of conversation.

(Kim: We can think more about this...but I'm not sure if that is a problem or just that they have the wrong expectations.)

I think narratives are difficult enough to follow over a course of time. We do not need to create additional difficulties that may dissuade people from staying with it. i vote sequential.

So I am thinking that we should run all of the links day by day (and there can be a categories next to each date on the side) but all of the text and drawings should be sequential.

(Kim: Oh, that is easy to do. If you click on the images, or on the "next" button at the bottom of each page you'll move sequentially. If you want me to change the navigation bar on the left as well, that is easy. It looks like it is repeated on each page...but I only have to change it once and it changes on all pages (magic!).)

I also do want us to post a new story every day. does that mean would make an additional drawing and an additional narrative by me every day?

(Kim: I can only make one drawing a day. You know that they take hours.)

Ok. it might be interesting to sometimes do drawings based on the news story and sometimes on our exchanges, and i will do the same. i don't want to be myopic here.

I also want to run a news story every day, regardless of whether or not we comment on it. gives our experiment in time a wider perspective.

What or how do you think about that?

(Kim: We are dancing and not sure who is leading. But that is what is interesting. It is what the used to call the "war of the sexes.")

I don't agree. I mean, I agree that it is interesting but i don't necessarily think we are enacting a war of the sexes, with or without quotation marks.

Is that how you see it? or is that what you would like it to be?

(Kim: It isn't a violent war...just a dissonance.)

Certainly we are influenced by our experiences as men or women. but we are also having different perspectives generationally, in terms of our chosen genres, etc.

(Kim: ...and what caused some people to find happiness in romancing their own sex.)

Maybe some. But do not make the mistake that all lgbt people are oriented towards their own sex for that reason. My interest in women is not necessarily a reaction to bad experiences with men. I have also had some very good experiences with men, sexually, socially and otherwise.

Attraction is complicated. and my interest in women is its own thing. Why wouldn't someone be attracted to women? Think about it. Think about why you are attracted to women.

(Kim: Do we really know why we make the choices we do? I imagine that if I woke up tomorrow as a woman then I'd be a lesbian.)

Joan

Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005

11:05 a.m.

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